when to change chain???

[coldbarrel]

how do we know its time to chnage the chain????

 

when adjusting the rear wheel back to its max, still the cahin slack ????

any danger if the chain appear rusty????

 

can sand away the rust ??? any danger of weakenin the chain ???

[siux]

chains are very impt. i know it when mine came loose on AYE when im on the 1st lane. if u do change, always try to get the best that you can afford. like DID or RK x-ring. they are ex, but they last long and u can wack your bike without fear that they will snap so easily.

[starr]

and whats the lifespan for a chain with an average care? 1 year?

[siux]

depends on what kind of chain u buy bro. dose good ones that i mention can go up to 2 yrs or more with average care but its always a case by case basis.

[Bikee]

it is expected that a chain will last 10,000 km..some can go up to 20,000km..

but if u install a chain oiler...chain life can be extended by several times..

some have reported 5x..

auto oiler can be expensive...

but a ezzyoiler cost only $30..with installations..

so this saves money in chain replacement and the hastle of cleaning and oiling it. and many other benefits...

 

Love the oiler U fixed for me. My chain is so clean now and I dun have to worry about rust on my chain even tho my bike is exposed to the foul weather these few days. Best of all, it's super cheap...

[Naked1]

Remember to change as a whole set ,chain ,front and rear sprocket for optimum life.

[sleepoo]

Love the oiler U fixed for me. My chain is so clean now and I dun have to worry about rust on my chain even tho my bike is exposed to the foul weather these few days. Best of all, it's super cheap...

 

wher can u get the ezzyoiler?? isit the same as scottoiler kinda thing?

 

please pm me.. thanx.. will have a hard time looking for this page

[mild_slevin]

Guys/Gals usually you'll prefer to clean the chain first before oiling?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

When using sewing machine oil (hey, its good enough for kup size chains LOL) I didn't bother to clean the chain because a bit of grease between the links and rollers is good for lubrication. Besides the chain tech these days is so tough, it can run for a loooong time without lubrication even (NOT recommended!!). So I just used singer oil every week and no sir, no chains broken ever.

 

Now I'm using spray on chain lube which does a good job keeping the golden chain golden. If I do want to take apart the chain for cleaning I'd rather let the bike shop do it.

 

According to those who have magical self-oiling devices, the constant addition of oil onto the chain at high speed does result in a self cleaning chain which is good!

[cox]

better to change and oil your chain regularly.. lately i've seen a few chain lying in the middle of the road.

[AzRekZek]

where to buy oil for chain ??

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Economical option - $1 - $1.5 from hardware shop, Singer or Super oil. Use weekly on your AzRekZek's chain and that's adequate chain protection for yearly replacement of the chain.

 

Expensive option - $8 - $22 spray on chain lube from bike shops. Better cleaning properties than your sewing machine oil but achieves the same purpose.

[xXxRatedxXx]

Economical option - $1 - $1.5 from hardware shop, Singer or Super oil. Use weekly on your AzRekZek's chain and that's adequate chain protection for yearly replacement of the chain.

 

Expensive option - $8 - $22 spray on chain lube from bike shops. Better cleaning properties than your sewing machine oil but achieves the same purpose.

 

Use engine oil to lube... $5 for a 1litre bottle of REDZ super 4T 20w-40 mineral oil.... most budget and works the best!

[d0n]

Use engine oil to lube... $5 for a 1litre bottle of REDZ super 4T 20w-40 mineral oil.... most budget and works the best!

 

i walked into LAB and asked for the cheapest bottle of 2T they have.

also paid smth like $4 if i dint remember wrongly.

upz for using engine oil or 2T for chain oiling!

 

but one issue i face is that although the chain doesnt require tightening (even after 20,000km of usage), i get the chain rattling noise within 1-2 days after lubricating the chain.

[Siluman]

hey guys, can u guys state a brief amount such as,

1) how much does a chain costs? example a gold chain

since its advisable to change it as a whole set of chain and sprockets,

2) how much does each sprockets for front & rear costs?

 

mayb can state brand too

 

and mayb shops which sells affordable and standard quality

 

sory newbie here

[emarc77]

change new one would be much better.

 

less hassle and you may safe riding too

[hi_sham32]

how do we know its time to chnage the chain????

 

when adjusting the rear wheel back to its max, still the cahin slack ????

any danger if the chain appear rusty????

 

can sand away the rust ??? any danger of weakenin the chain ???

 

When first i buy my bike, rust chain everywhere. Very2 dirty job. Scrub it with diesel. Then wash then lube it.

 

 

Guys/Gals usually you'll prefer to clean the chain first before oiling?

 

Chain are meant to be oil. And oil may traps dirts. I prefer less hassle way by soak the cloth with new EO, then wipe it clean. Means it still lube it.

[mild_slevin]

When using sewing machine oil (hey, its good enough for kup size chains LOL) I didn't bother to clean the chain because a bit of grease between the links and rollers is good for lubrication. Besides the chain tech these days is so tough, it can run for a loooong time without lubrication even (NOT recommended!!). So I just used singer oil every week and no sir, no chains broken ever.

 

Now I'm using spray on chain lube which does a good job keeping the golden chain golden. If I do want to take apart the chain for cleaning I'd rather let the bike shop do it.

 

According to those who have magical self-oiling devices, the constant addition of oil onto the chain at high speed does result in a self cleaning chain which is good!

 

Yes, I'm using Singer Oil as well but more as protection for those ferrous parts. Has yet try it on chain, shall try it out soon... Yup Ezzy-oiler explained on its "self cleaning" capability, rather amaze that lube and cleaning take place all at a go.

 

When first i buy my bike, rust chain everywhere. Very2 dirty job. Scrub it with diesel. Then wash then lube it.

 

Chain are meant to be oil. And oil may traps dirts. I prefer less hassle way by soak the cloth with new EO, then wipe it clean. Means it still lube it.

 

Wooo... EO can remove dirt and grease on the chain??

How about petrol or diesel? Cause I'm told that we have to be careful that the rubber seals in the chain not damage due to cleaning.

 

An article from Wiki on how we determine if chain is worn out :

 

"The effect of wear on a roller chain is to increase the pitch (spacing of the links), causing the chain to grow longer. Note that this is due to wear at the pivoting pins and bushes, not from actual stretching of the metal (as does happen to some flexible steel components such as the hand-brake cable of a motor vehicle).

 

With modern chains it is unusual for a chain (other than that of a bicycle) to wear until it breaks, since a worn chain leads to the rapid onset of wear on the teeth of the sprockets, with ultimate failure being the loss of all the teeth on the sprocket. The sprockets (in particular the larger of the two) suffer a grinding motion that puts a characteristic hook shape into the driven face of the teeth. (This effect is made worse by a chain improperly tensioned, but is unavoidable no matter what care is taken). The worn teeth (and chain) no longer provides smooth transmission of power and this may become evident from the noise, the vibration or (in car engines using a timing chain) the variation in ignition timing seen with a timing light. Both sprockets and chain should be replaced in these cases, since a new chain on worn sprockets will not last long. However, in less severe cases it may be possible to save the smaller of the two sprockets, since it is always the larger one that suffers the most wear. Only in very light-weight applications such as a bicycle, or in extreme cases of improper tension, will the chain normally jump off the sprockets.

 

The lengthening dues to wear of a chain is calculated by the following formula:

 

% = ((M − (S * P)) / (S * P)) * 100

 

M = the length of a number of links measured

 

S = the number of links measured

 

P = Pitch"

 

*source = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_chain#Wear

 

I came across my fren prev bike owner, he has this habit leaving the bike at 1st gear while parking. He explained that when we clutch in and step down to engage 1st gear, we would experience a "tug" on the chain. Not sure if it really helps in the long run maintaining the chain.

Edited August 16, 2010 by mild_slevin

[TAJ]

can pm me the ezzyoiler thingy?

[ezzyoiler]

the ezzyoiler is available..check this out in the cmo forum

http://singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298400

[BlkeIover]

hahaha UPSSSS joke of the day

 

 

 

better to change and oil your chain regularly.. lately i've seen a few chain lying in the middle of the road.

[ezzyoiler]

haha...its definitely no joking matter...if this happens to my bike..

 

any way with the ezzyoiler on my bike...i think i dont have to worry about chains problem for a long time..

the milage i chopped up every year...think the chains will outlasts me..haha..

[chris 525]

As ezzyoiler said, a looked after chain can last from 10,000 to 20,000km, and even longer if you got one of those auto-oiler things.

 

I got a rabbit oiler, and my chain still looks good at 20,000k

 

If your chain is already gone or half gone the chain oiler is not going to make it last any longer.

 

When you change the chain, then also change the front and rear sprockets. The chain and sprockets should be considered as one bike component.

 

As for the quality of chain, for a low power engine like the 200cc 4-stroke (or 125 restricted 2-stroke) and below, maybe $50 ok. No O-rings necessary. But you still need to oil it.

 

For high power, high torque bike, then you need the best quality O-ring or X-ring kind of chain at $150 +++. And the same for the sprockets. The sudden bursts of power from acceleration, and changing gears, can really stress those components.

 

When is it time to change a chain. When you are having to retension it every other day, oiled or not. If it is really noisy when riding. If you inspect the chain from the back wheel to the front sprocket, the alignment looks all jaggered. Also if you inspect the rear sprockets then the teeth are shaped a little bit like hooks. (Sorry got no pix)

[amato74]

As ezzyoiler said, a looked after chain can last from 10,000 to 20,000km, and even longer if you got one of those auto-oiler things.

 

I got a rabbit oiler, and my chain still looks good at 20,000k

 

If your chain is already gone or half gone the chain oiler is not going to make it last any longer.

 

When you change the chain, then also change the front and rear sprockets. The chain and sprockets should be considered as one bike component.

 

As for the quality of chain, for a low power engine like the 200cc 4-stroke (or 125 restricted 2-stroke) and below, maybe $50 ok. No O-rings necessary. But you still need to oil it.

 

For high power, high torque bike, then you need the best quality O-ring or X-ring kind of chain at $150 +++. And the same for the sprockets. The sudden bursts of power from acceleration, and changing gears, can really stress those components.

 

When is it time to change a chain. When you are having to retension it every other day, oiled or not. If it is really noisy when riding. If you inspect the chain from the back wheel to the front sprocket, the alignment looks all jaggered. Also if you inspect the rear sprockets then the teeth are shaped a little bit like hooks. (Sorry got no pix)

 

Good Info Chris 525,

 

thanks man..

[guangwei]

depends on what kind of chain u buy bro. dose good ones that i mention can go up to 2 yrs or more with average care but its always a case by case basis.

 

my chain had been the same old chain for the past 5 years. sometimes i heard the chiping sounds when i move my bike, sometimes after awhile or the next day, it just disappear, what does it means? time to change? as for the slack, i think i can put one and half finger in between the gap when i pull and lift it up.

Edited November 23, 2013 by guangwei