COE matters

[guangwei]

Notice quite alot of sellers stating that their COE are renewable. Under what conditions are then COE non renewable?

[XxPJYxX]

Notice quite alot of sellers stating that their COE are renewable. Under what conditions are then COE non renewable?

 

Coe non renewable if previous Coe had been renewed for 5 years. If any bike renewed for 5 years, the bike will have to be scrapped after that 5 years are up. Can't be renewed after that 5 years.

[guangwei]

Coe non renewable if previous Coe had been renewed for 5 years. If any bike renewed for 5 years, the bike will have to be scrapped after that 5 years are up. Can't be renewed after that 5 years.

so its compulsory to ask if you are buying a bike with less than 5 years coe? since this is not valid for bikes with more than 5 tears coe. anyway to verify? what causes the requirement to only left with the option to renew coe for 5 years? bike model too old?

[ki113r]

Best way to find out.

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/maintain_vehicle/coe1.html

[guangwei]

The 5-year COE is non-renewable. You must deregister the vehicle upon the expiry of the 5-year COE.

 

Their instructions are usually long winded and unclear. So if its a 5 year COE under my new bike, I will definitely had to deregister the bike, and I can't bid for new COE? So I will be forced to scrap a perfect condition bike uh?

 

 

You do not need to bid for a COE for COE renewal. To renew the COE for your existing vehicle for another 10 years, pay the Prevailing Quota Premium (PQP). To renew the COE for another 5 years, pay 50% of the PQP

 

If the PQP of that particular bike is extremely EX than the current present month one, wouldn't it be better if i rather just not renew that coe, and bid for a new coe?

[XxPJYxX]

so its compulsory to ask if you are buying a bike with less than 5 years coe? since this is not valid for bikes with more than 5 tears coe. anyway to verify? what causes the requirement to only left with the option to renew coe for 5 years? bike model too old?

 

Some people can't fork out $1.8k for the 10 years Coe, so they just pay $900 for the 5 years Coe. But they'll have to scrap it after 5 years.

[guangwei]

Some people can't fork out $1.8k for the 10 years Coe, so they just pay $900 for the 5 years Coe. But they'll have to scrap it after 5 years.

 

cannot bid for new coe if he went for 5 years? then so its important to know whether ur coe is renewable if not your bike will be scrapped if its not.

[XxPJYxX]

Their instructions are usually long winded and unclear. So if its a 5 year COE under my new bike, I will definitely had to deregister the bike, and I can't bid for new COE? So I will be forced to scrap a perfect condition bike uh?

 

 

 

 

If the PQP of that particular bike is extremely EX than the current present month one, wouldn't it be better if i rather just not renew that coe, and bid for a new coe?

 

When buying a new bike, it's compulsory to have 10 years Coe. After that 10 years, u can choose to renew another 10 years or 5 years. If renew 10 years, u still will be able to renew the Coe after the 10 years and another 10 years and again and again until your bike parts get too expensive for u to afford. But if u renew 5 years, you'll have to scrap the bike no matter how good the condition is.

[guangwei]

When buying a new bike, it's compulsory to have 10 years Coe.

 

You are making me more confuse, theres plenty of bikes that people are selling with almost 0 to 4 years coe. i'm talking about buying of used bikes. so can used bike sellers lie that their coe is renewable and he had bid it 9 years ago, but in actual its not, and sell it to you, then a year later when the coe expired, you realise the coe is unrenewable and you will be forced to scrap the bike.

Edited April 28, 2013 by guangwei

[HimQQ]

You are making me more confuse, theres plenty of bikes that people are selling with almost 0 to 4 years coe. i'm talking about buying of used bikes. so can used bike sellers lie that their coe is renewable and he had bid it 9 years ago, but in actual its not, and sell it to you, then a year later when the coe expired, you realise the coe is unrenewable and you will be forced to scrap the bike.

 

You got the concept wrong from the start.

It's like that, if the new bike has 4 years COE left, it's registered on 10 year COE at start, and 6 years old, thus 4 years left.

It's not the years that are left, but what is the amount that is registered on day 1.

 

For the best solution, ask the seller, or go to Onemotoring.

[Tachnicolour]

You are making me more confuse, theres plenty of bikes that people are selling with almost 0 to 4 years coe. i'm talking about buying of used bikes. so can used bike sellers lie that their coe is renewable and he had bid it 9 years ago, but in actual its not, and sell it to you, then a year later when the coe expired, you realise the coe is unrenewable and you will be forced to scrap the bike.

 

For a bike that is within it's first COE cycle, it is DEFINITELY 10yrs.

 

At point of purchase of new bike, COE bought can ONLY be for 10yrs. So only need to be concerned if bike is more than 10yrs.

 

When the first 10yrs are up, you are given a choice to renew the COE or NOT(scrap)

 

If you renew, you can choose 5yr or 10yr renewal. For 10yr renewal, if you use it all the way (until your bike is 20yrs old) and the COE expires again, you can once again renew the COE.

 

If you renew only 5yrs, when your bike reaches 10 + 5(5yr renewal), aka 15years, you have to scrap, CANNOT renew any further.

 

You can check on onemotoring via enquiry for existing vehicle owner (need owner IC/ID number, veh number), COE renew-ability and costs.

 

Generally speaking, only for vehicles with coe ending like 15yrs after vehicle first registration date (check via one motoring enquire vehicle transfer fee, key in veh number and intended transfer date), or 25yrs, and such.

 

Do note that it might not be strictly 15/25/35yrs after original registration date. Why? If at 9th yr, owner sees that PQP super-low, quickly renew for 5yrs, then the COE expiry may be 14yrs from original registration date.

 

Of course, it is also possible that someone renew 10yrs COE when the bike has only used up 5yrs of their COE, but seriously......no one is likely too. More often than not, you will see bikes with COE expiring 19-20yrs after original COE date.

[rider2013]

For instance if I buy a 2nd hand cbr150 register at 2006 March, can I renew

Coe earlier say I buy 10 years COE? Or do I have to wait March 2016 can renew?

[Tachnicolour]

For instance if I buy a 2nd hand cbr150 register at 2006 March, can I renew

Coe earlier say I buy 10 years COE? Or do I have to wait March 2016 can renew?

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/maintain_vehicle/coe1.html

[manbai]

Have to wait till March 2016 to renew or a month earlier only.

[XxPJYxX]

First of all, if u believe the seller lied to you about the renewal of Coe, u can call LTA to check with them and ask if its still renewable or not. Simple as that.

[guangwei]

For a bike that is within it's first COE cycle, it is DEFINITELY 10yrs.

 

At point of purchase of new bike, COE bought can ONLY be for 10yrs. So only need to be concerned if bike is more than 10yrs.

 

When the first 10yrs are up, you are given a choice to renew the COE or NOT(scrap)

 

If you renew, you can choose 5yr or 10yr renewal. For 10yr renewal, if you use it all the way (until your bike is 20yrs old) and the COE expires again, you can once again renew the COE.

 

If you renew only 5yrs, when your bike reaches 10 + 5(5yr renewal), aka 15years, you have to scrap, CANNOT renew any further.

 

You can check on onemotoring via enquiry for existing vehicle owner (need owner IC/ID number, veh number), COE renew-ability and costs.

 

Generally speaking, only for vehicles with coe ending like 15yrs after vehicle first registration date (check via one motoring enquire vehicle transfer fee, key in veh number and intended transfer date), or 25yrs, and such.

 

Do note that it might not be strictly 15/25/35yrs after original registration date. Why? If at 9th yr, owner sees that PQP super-low, quickly renew for 5yrs, then the COE expiry may be 14yrs from original registration date.

 

Of course, it is also possible that someone renew 10yrs COE when the bike has only used up 5yrs of their COE, but seriously......no one is likely too. More often than not, you will see bikes with COE expiring 19-20yrs after original COE date.

 

so you are saying bikes with coe 19-20 years from registration date is definitely safe? so the only way to check if a seller's coe is renewable or not is by piecing fragment of details like coe expiry date, bike registration dates to find an answer?

 

You can check on onemotoring via enquiry for existing vehicle owner (need owner IC/ID number, veh number), COE renew-ability and costs.

I dont think can, look throuhg awhile already, the transfer fee computation page also nvr show. but you can see the register date and end of coe dates.

Edited April 28, 2013 by guangwei

[Andre]

Aiya.., if can see the registered and end date of the COE you can tell whether it is a 5 yrs or 10yrs liao..

[epk]

No need to play jigsaw puzzle and piece together, guess Coe etc.

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_e_services/services_for_assets.html

 

Ask owner to log in using singpass. From there you can view the vehicle's log card. Alternatively, you can call lta to check. Not sure if they will disclose or not.

 

Simple method.. don't know why would one want to guess here guess there like playing game..

[guangwei]

No need to play jigsaw puzzle and piece together, guess Coe etc.

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_e_services/services_for_assets.html

 

Ask owner to log in using singpass. From there you can view the vehicle's log card. Alternatively, you can call lta to check. Not sure if they will disclose or not.

 

Simple method.. don't know why would one want to guess here guess there like playing game..

 

the onemotoring site does not disclosee anything unless you can provide the ic of the bike owner and name of his ic, which i believe most bike seller will feel uncomfortable providing. called lta, and then they simply redirect me back to the site again. so in the end the only method buyers can track, and when they dont want to ask for ic number is by piecing info here and there together

[ki113r]

I was playing around with the options available on OneMotoring. It seems that we are allowed to renew COE earlier than the expiry date. This message was made clear to me:

"Please Note : The COE for this vehicle is not due for renewal yet. Please note that any current unused COE will be forfeited if you proceed with this COE renewal."

[shoei]

guangwei, go to one-motoring. The website is able to answer most of your questions. ppl here are trying to help you out but you seems unappreciative. There must be a reason why onemotoring.com's instructions are usually "long winded and unclear".

 

On a different note, anyone knows if the road tax or a bike with renewed coe will increase? if so, whats the guidelines?

[epk]

the onemotoring site does not disclosee anything unless you can provide the ic of the bike owner and name of his ic, which i believe most bike seller will feel uncomfortable providing. called lta, and then they simply redirect me back to the site again. so in the end the only method buyers can track, and when they dont want to ask for ic number is by piecing info here and there together

 

My apologies. Perhaps you have failed to read my reply properly. Ask the owner himself to log in. You don't need to know his ic or name. He can log in himself and show it to you. I am sure most people are using phones which have ready access to the internet. It can be done on the spot whilst viewing the bike. All you need to look at is his elog card.

 

If you still feel this is a hassle alike carrying your helmet home, another alternative would be to avoid buying >10 years old bike, or perhaps a new one.

 

Cheers and good luck with your bike hunt.

[XxPJYxX]

TS should call 1800-CALL-LTA, that's 1800-2255-582

[crazydj]

guangwei, go to one-motoring. The website is able to answer most of your questions. ppl here are trying to help you out but you seems unappreciative. There must be a reason why onemotoring.com's instructions are usually "long winded and unclear".

 

On a different note, anyone knows if the road tax or a bike with renewed coe will increase? if so, whats the guidelines?

 

I dunno whether TS is legit or not. I know some people, when they dont understand something, they get damn pissed and all that. Dunno whether they are pissed at themselves for not understanding or just get pissed at the person trying to explain to them.

[shoei]

I dunno whether TS is legit or not. I know some people, when they dont understand something, they get damn pissed and all that. Dunno whether they are pissed at themselves for not understanding or just get pissed at the person trying to explain to them.

Totally agreed with you. 

 

Anyone with a renewed Coe bike? How does the road tax differs?